Yay! It's my 1500th post on Vinsanity. Whoo hoo! This time last year I didn't think I wanted to continue blogging. But here I am, still going on about nothing much in particular. Today, however, I have something special to post. Something quite particular, in fact. An interview.
Dr. Jamie Goode PhD is a scientist, newspaper columnist, award winning author, wine judge, lecturer and an expert on all things oenos. He travels extensively and is much in demand as an authority on wine-grape growing regions around the globe - places the rest of us just get to read about in books. Sigh.
I am currently reading his book I Taste Red (2016) which is a study of the science of tasting wine. The title refers to synaesthesia which is a condition that muddles up the senses. I experienced synaesthesia myself once. The experience was, to say the least, bizarre. It's a good book, intense, but interesting.
During the Covid-19 pandemic, Dr. Goode has been hosting web-forums on Instagram (@drjamiegoode) and Zoom which I have been thoroughly enjoying. He also has a daily wine review series called Wine on Camera (Instagram). Sometimes the internet connection leaves a little to be desired (illustrated by the fuzzy screenshot above), but it's only a minor bother.
Anyway, here is what the doctor had to say:
Vinogirl: Are you drinking wine right now? If so, what is it?
Jamie Goode: No, I had a big night with friends last night (socially distanced and outside in a garden, of course) with some amazing bottles, and it was very late. So I’m rather tired today.
VG: You're a scientist. Is it hard for you to enjoy a glass of wine and not always be tempted to break it down into its chemical components?
JG: I think there are different levels of enjoying wine. Sometimes I examine what I’m drinking in a sort of scientific way. Other times, I drink. Some wines have something interesting to say, and then I pay attention. Other times, the wine is just wine. Science is good at answering some questions, but wine needs more than science to understand it. I’m also not so keen on reductionistic approaches to wine. A chemical analysis of a wine can’t tell us much about its quality. Breaking a wine down into its components doesn’t tell us what the wine is like – the wine is a whole.
VG: What is your take on writing reviews of bad wine? The less said the better? Or full disclosure?
JG: The problem with reviewing bad wine is that if you get it wrong, then you might have damaged the reputation and feelings of a producer. A false positive is much less problematic than a false negative. Our perception is not always right. If you taste a wine and it seems to be really bretty, for example, sometimes it’s best to just say nothing about that wine rather than pan it. Some writers enjoy saying negative things, but there is a person behind the wine, and often a small business. We have to be careful here.
VG: During the shelter-in-place, I've watched a lot of your Instagram/Zoom presentations. I like the virtual-access afforded to the consumer of some really great wines, producers and regions. Is this something that you'll continue in the future?
JG: Yes, I enjoy doing it. The tasting wine on camera videos have been very well received. Producers have approached me about getting their wines tasted live. The interviews with producers have been great, but internet issues can make them a bit tricky: you just don’t know how good other peoples’ connections are.
VG: You seemed to be having a blast with Ernie Loosen. Do you have a favourite amongst the online presentations and virtual tastings that you have hosted thus far?
JG: I really enjoyed chatting with Ernie, who is great value. It was also good to connect with Elaine Brown, and it was super fun to chat with Anna Jorgensen in the Alentejo: she’s just taken over her sizeable family property and is making some really interesting changes, especially in the vineyard.
VG: You actually contracted Covid-19 early on and spoke about losing your sense of smell and taste. How scary was that for someone who earns his living smelling and tasting wine?
JG: It’s pretty scary when your career is potentially over! Fortunately it came back. But for quite a while I was having to ask deep questions of myself. What would I be without my career? There was a lot to process.
VG: I was recently re-reading Wine & Philosophy (2008). Twelve years on, how are your orbitofrontal cortex and amygdala holding up?
JG: I’m really fascinated by perception, which is why I wrote a book on it. You can only really make sense of perception with a multidisciplinary approach. The brain really is remarkable.
VG: It is a little unusual for a wine-writer to be so philosophical. Wax lyrical about which dead philosopher you'd like to share a bottle of wine with?
JG: I guess I am unusual, but I like to think deeply. Sharing a bottle of wine with a dead philosopher? I’d go big and right back to ancient Greece, and have a night out with Plato. There’d be a language barrier, but with a Babel fish in my ear, I think we’d have some interesting discussions. I’d be pretty curious to taste the wines he drinks, too – wine back then would have been quite different, but maybe not as different…. Hmmm. It would be great to catch one of the symposia, too. Lots of smart people drinking wine together and musing on deep issues.
VG: I am impressed that you seem really interested in viticulture, again a tad unusual for a wine-writer. Where does that interest spring from? Is it just part of the holistic and scientific way in which you approach your work?
JG: I did a PhD in plant biology, and I have a love for all things botanical. Viticulture is at a very interesting place right now. It’s incredibly hard to do good experiments in vineyards if the readout is wine quality, and so if you rely on the scientific literature you probably won’t get a very good understanding of what’s going on in the vineyard. I find travelling and talking to people is a great way to learn.
VG: You've traveled all around the world and been in some fabulous and storied vineyards. Do you find it difficult to stop yourself from hugging the odd vine, or two?
JG: I have this bizarre affection for good vineyards, and I’ve seen some famous ones. But the vine should just be part of the vineyard, not the whole focus. It should be seen as part of an agroecosystem. I love vineyards that are full of life. It’s also amazing to see vineyards where the vines are incredibly old. There’s something special about an old vineyard, even if they look a bit raggedy sometimes.
VG: I know you used to grow a little back garden Pinot noir. If you produced your own wine, what grape variety would you pick?
JG: It depends where I am in the world. I’d love to work with Palomino, Trousseau, Pineau d’Aunis, Alb
VG: Although I know you love dogs, I don't take you for a critter-wine-label type of person. What type of packaging do you think gives a wine shelf-appeal?
JG: It depends on the segment, but for fine wine, good typography, simplicity and elegance, and wax.
VG: And a name for your virtual wine?
JG: Tetraphis pellucida. It’s the latin name of the moss I first grew in sterile culture when I began my PhD.
VG: Besides yourself, who is your favourite English wine writer?
JG: Andrew Jefford.
VG: I personally don't believe it is possible, but do you love Hugh Johnson as much as I do?
JG: His writing is effortless and a joy to read. But I’m guessing you win here.
VG: When the travel ban is lifted, where will you be off to first?
JG: Maybe Canada.
VG: Next time you visit Napa, are we going to hang out and dish the dirt on some wineries?
JG: Totally. I think we’d hit it off.
Thank you for indulging me, Dr. Goode.
For more from Dr. Goode, go to Wineanorak.com.
