tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5287585119513058786.post6074443375038219932..comments2023-10-14T06:44:00.218-07:00Comments on Vinsanity: True Wine Lover 13.Vinogirlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10145696108646897751noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5287585119513058786.post-45161819361809649212013-04-17T11:57:15.303-07:002013-04-17T11:57:15.303-07:00I just found a bottle of this in my wine cellar. O...I just found a bottle of this in my wine cellar. Only difference is that the label sais North Coast, instead of Sonoma. What is this bottle of wine worth today in 2013? I wonder if it is still good?Momof4https://www.blogger.com/profile/16284238386816622628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5287585119513058786.post-72526989760915084392012-07-11T06:40:25.188-07:002012-07-11T06:40:25.188-07:00NH,
if you are relatively new to wine, I suggest ...NH,<br /><br />if you are relatively new to wine, I suggest that you forgo trying to classify things and set yourself to exploring your own tastes. if you find that you appreciate, maybe even come to love wines on which others cast aspersion, so what?<br /><br />Most wine consumers have no clue what terms like "international style" mean. In any case, such things are often constructed by people who are certain that they have all the answers, whether or no they have the credentials.<br /><br />There may or may not be something of an "international style" of wine, and if that's what someone drinks and prefers, so be it.<br /><br />In my opinion, since the American wine industry has collectively accepted using promotion rather than standards to guide its direction, no winemaking process is valid and no process is in-valid. Winemaking processes simply become preferred or not preferred.<br /><br />...but you still cannot compare personally infused winemaking with industrial-like winemaking. The two are canyons apart. <br /><br />Incidentally, the homogeneous international style vs. rustic has been an ongoing discussion since ancient times. Wine has always simultaneously stirred soulful and economic interests.Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322028233207741737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5287585119513058786.post-68154555276702466012012-07-11T03:37:33.397-07:002012-07-11T03:37:33.397-07:00Thomas,
my interpretation of what's going on i...Thomas,<br />my interpretation of what's going on is a less individualistic (Rustic if you will) wine in preference to the "International" style of wine. Can the two coexist? Can a wine, i.e. Banfi, continue to make wines of distinction and yet use their new technologies to fashion a more homogeneous international style, or are they exclusive?<br />I'm sure these thoughts have different answers by different wine makers/writers, but are a curiosity to me.<br />Thanks for taking the time to assist my trek into the world of wine.New Hampshire Winemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07111304557830665931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5287585119513058786.post-27276020257542209722012-07-10T21:17:17.610-07:002012-07-10T21:17:17.610-07:00Thud: Yes, Mr. Bond, all martinis (small m) were ...Thud: Yes, Mr. Bond, all martinis (small m) were shaken (by the 1906 temblor), not stirred!<br /><br />Thomas: I'm sure they mulled over their predicament of ending up with warm wine!Vinogirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10145696108646897751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5287585119513058786.post-13159157101922997872012-07-10T12:37:11.230-07:002012-07-10T12:37:11.230-07:00Thud,
They saved the houses but the heat of the f...Thud,<br /><br />They saved the houses but the heat of the fire ruined the wine in the mattresses.Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322028233207741737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5287585119513058786.post-47093158953297081552012-07-10T12:18:51.811-07:002012-07-10T12:18:51.811-07:00After the quake they wer shaken not stirred?After the quake they wer shaken not stirred?Thudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18320037763190473684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5287585119513058786.post-87338655394600248662012-07-10T07:33:09.436-07:002012-07-10T07:33:09.436-07:002B: Thanks. Came across a really interesting sto...2B: Thanks. Came across a really interesting story, whilst reading up on Mr. Martini, about Italian immigrants in San Francisco at the time of the 1906 earthquake. Apparently, to save their homes (in Little Italy) from the fire that ravaged San Francisco after the quake, they wrapped mattresses - soaked in wine from their cellars - around their houses and saved them from destruction. Cool eh?<br /><br />Thomas: What a wonderful way to wean :)<br /><br /><br />NHW: I think Thomas has answered for me. But there is a follow - on post...stay tuned.Vinogirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10145696108646897751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5287585119513058786.post-62285994452991405712012-07-10T07:07:23.826-07:002012-07-10T07:07:23.826-07:00NH,
So much has changed in the way all old-style,...NH,<br /><br />So much has changed in the way all old-style, family-owned wineries operate now that they are part of larger companies. <br /><br />I'm not saying the wines today can't age. I'm just saying that you can't relate the ways of the past with today's production methods.<br /><br />If you look carefully on some of the lower priced wine labels you'll often see words like "Vinted and Bottled By..." That means the wines may be crafted under the winemaker's direction, but they are not exactly produced by the winemaker, nor are they from the estate's vineyards.<br /><br />In fact, unless the words are "Estate Bottled" or "Produced and Bottled By..." you shouldn't relate those wines to the past history of any old family operation.Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322028233207741737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5287585119513058786.post-46507968882391408822012-07-10T01:22:05.128-07:002012-07-10T01:22:05.128-07:00Thomas, thanks for the reflection, but when you sa...Thomas, thanks for the reflection, but when you say "no reflection" did you mean zero?<br />I've tried their 2006 Napa and Sonoma Cabs, and at the price points (No Cult Wine There)I found them to be very good table wines!<br />The only time I heard of a Zin being good at that age was a Ridge.New Hampshire Winemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07111304557830665931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5287585119513058786.post-37905395751973319212012-07-09T17:53:21.424-07:002012-07-09T17:53:21.424-07:00NHwineman,
The Martini wines of today bear no rel...NHwineman,<br /><br />The Martini wines of today bear no relationship to the Martini wines of the 70s.Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322028233207741737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5287585119513058786.post-11819972576015991882012-07-09T14:41:43.049-07:002012-07-09T14:41:43.049-07:00Vinogirl, another very interesting post, one that ...Vinogirl, another very interesting post, one that got me a-wonderin about the cellaring ability of Louis M. Martini Sonoma Cabernet. I had read not long ago, some wine critic which I don't remember, said drink now only to the 2009 vintage. So after reading about this 1972 Martini Zinfandel I went investigating; the winery had no cellar time suggestions, but another reviewer said there was a 10 year potential for that cabernet.<br />Given that Zin generally fades sooner than Cab., do you have any thoughts on this?New Hampshire Winemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07111304557830665931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5287585119513058786.post-13344561878617941932012-07-09T06:31:06.499-07:002012-07-09T06:31:06.499-07:00Not only were they fabulous wines, they sold betwe...Not only were they fabulous wines, they sold between $3 and $4/bottle.<br /><br />Weaned on'em...Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322028233207741737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5287585119513058786.post-61231352972671339552012-07-09T04:16:49.351-07:002012-07-09T04:16:49.351-07:00awesome... no AWESOME post and man, I would have l...awesome... no AWESOME post and man, I would have loved to taste that wine! Darrell Corti once poured 1972 Martini Zinfandel for me... it was fantastic... very very cool... thanks for this Vinogirl!Do Bianchihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12744434741371288465noreply@blogger.com